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Had an interesting conversation with an athiest today.� It really brought to light to me something I�consider to be a common mental block that athiests come to in their logic.

Him:� What do you get from your religion.

Me:� A sense of understanding of the purpose of the human race, and of my role in that purpose.

Him:� What about hope?

Me:� Yes, certainly.� A hope that my understanding of that purpose will continue to expand, and that will help me become a better, more enlightened person.

Then later...

Him:� Well I guess Iapos;m just a secure enough person that I�dont NEED�religion to give me a purpose.

Me:� Neither do I.

Him:� Thats not true, you said the reason you were religious is that it gives you a sense of purpose.

Me:� No I didnapos;t.

Then he goes back to my previous quote, thinking he has trapped me in some sort of hypocracy.

Me:� What I get out of my religion, and why Iapos;m religious in the first place, are two different questions.� I�am not religious as a means of gaining purpose, I am religious because I�believe in God.� A sense of hope and purpose is an effect of believing in God, not the cause of it.�

I�donapos;t really understand why it seems to work this way, but a common athiest view is that religious people somehow force themselves to believe in God so that they feel better.� This really doesnapos;t make any sense, as a belief is much deeper than this.� You canapos;t force a belief upon yourself.� Iapos;m not sure if athiests are implying that christians really somehow "brainwash" themselves into believing something that they must deep down know isnt true,�or that we just say we believe in order to "brainwash" others.� Either way, it shows the lack of understanding that athiests have of the true Christian mind.� The belief is there because it is there.� It just "is."� The rewards and punishments that come from having faith are inconsequestial to the existance of the faith itself.

I�want to rant a bit also about a misconception that athiests often use regarding science and logic.� The concept that its not "logical" to believe in God, because there is no scientific evidence.� I�need to go have a smoke and a beer though, maybe tommarow.
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